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Latest comment: 19 March by VeryGreatFrog in topic Change timeformat to logical format

Change timeformat to logical format

Something like Day/month/Year either with month written out or using something similar to DD/MM/YYYY. Shinasu (talk) 22:01, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The new format must have the month as words. This is to make sure that all our international users can understand the wiki properly. Beyond that I am open for suggestions, but I prefer it written our rather than using slashes (/). Dates should be able to be read naturally. VeryGreatFrog (talk) 22:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fully open for it to be written without those for separation.
The order is what makes little sense for most outside US.
So example something like "13 March 2023" is perfectly fine. Shinasu (talk) 22:09, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What is your opinion on using a comma after the month? This is similar to what we are doing right now.
13 March, 2023 VeryGreatFrog (talk) 22:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Could certainly work, tho might also be good to still follow a standard that already exists within mediawiki in order to minimize the amount of mismatches between dates in pages and the timestamp for creation/last update of said pages.
Makes it more coherent overall. Shinasu (talk) 22:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DD - MM - YYYY is the most common date format (smallest to biggest), used by every country in the world except for a handful. Most of that handful use YYYY/MM/DD, which still makes sense (biggest to smallest).
USA is the only country in the planet that uses MM/DD/YYYY, (medium - small - big??????) which makes absolutely no sense. It also makes no sense that we'd adopt it for the wiki.
DD - Month - YYYY would be the best option. Yamboni (talk) 22:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DD - Month - YYYY
Does that mean the following:
02 - March - 2023
1 - March - 2023
1 March 2023
Et cetera. Please provide examples of your preferred format. Thank yoU! VeryGreatFrog (talk) 22:17, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Any of those would work for me, or 02 March 2023, without dashes and with 0 on days lower than 10 Yamboni (talk) 22:20, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What is your opinion on using a comma after the month? This is similar to what we are doing right now.
02 March, 2023 VeryGreatFrog (talk) 22:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also fine Yamboni (talk) 22:35, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DD-MM-YYYY it is Phondrason (talk) 22:10, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DD-MM-YYYY will not be adopted, the month must be spelled out so that all our users can understand the date. Suggestions that do spell out the date are what we are looking for atm. VeryGreatFrog (talk) 22:12, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Summarizing thoughts so far:
  • The date format should be changed to put date before month, as this is the more widely accepted order world wide.
  • The month should be spelled out (no change)
  • This change does not have a negative effect on the readability of the date.
  • An example of the format that is proposed is as follows:
15 March 2023
  • Still up for debate:
    • If the date is lower than 10, should the number include a 0 before the date. For example: 04 March 2023.
    • Should the month be followed by a comma. For example: 19 March, 2023
Please respond with your thoughts and ideas about the two topics still up for debate as a reply to this comment.
- VeryGreatFrog (talk) 22:44, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I believe it would look better with a zero before the number and a comma.
Bbut I will refer both of these points to the standard set for the corresponding formatting as available in mediawiki.
numbers below 10 does not have a 0 before them and no comma. As a standard for it already exists and is available for other timestamps on the site already (such as edit-timestamps) if set in preferences. Shinasu (talk) 23:21, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I do agree that we should follow the standard set by the software. Therefore, no comma, no zero. VeryGreatFrog (talk) 09:53, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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